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vBulletin Salt Length
03-18-2012, 05:23 AM
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vBulletin Salt Length
Hi atom,

I just had another request whether it would be possible to allow all vbulletin type hashes and salt with ONLY 3 char salts AND 30 char salts (no 4 char or 28 char etc.) Currently, it seems they are separate but to memory the both are the same hashing type.

Sometimes, I load hash:salt from my forum which was vbulletin 3 but updated to vbulletin 4 and they contain both hash:salts with 3 characters and 40 characters. Maybe a option for vBulletin hashes and when select a popup asking e.g. "3 char only | 30 char only | Both |"?

I don't know but it would reduce the two vbulletin < 3.8.5 an vbulletin > 4 to one and much easier and compatible with both types of salts.

Thanks and regards! Smile
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03-18-2012, 01:13 PM
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RE: vBulletin Salt Length
You can easily do this with some excel fu. What you are asking for is a work around for laziness.
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03-18-2012, 01:32 PM
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RE: vBulletin Salt Length
Yes it's definitely for laziness but when I'm dealing with large dbs + other specific programs, this becomes a hassle. It would be a nice addition.
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03-18-2012, 03:06 PM (This post was last modified: 03-18-2012 03:06 PM by undeath.)
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RE: vBulletin Salt Length
The problem is that both require their own module/kernel because there are different optimizations. While for vb3 hashes two rounds of md5 are sufficient, vb4 hashes needs three rounds because of the long salt. Therefore there cannot be a single kernel for both types.
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03-18-2012, 04:00 PM
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RE: vBulletin Salt Length
(03-18-2012 01:32 PM)Kakoose Wrote:  Yes it's definitely for laziness but when I'm dealing with large dbs + other specific programs, this becomes a hassle. It would be a nice addition.

lots of people deal with large db's. fact is cleaning your list is part of auditing the passes.
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03-18-2012, 07:20 PM (This post was last modified: 03-18-2012 07:20 PM by atom.)
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RE: vBulletin Salt Length
(03-18-2012 03:06 PM)undeath Wrote:  The problem is that both require their own module/kernel because there are different optimizations. While for vb3 hashes two rounds of md5 are sufficient, vb4 hashes needs three rounds because of the long salt. Therefore there cannot be a single kernel for both types.

Thats correct. Its the reason why there are two kernels. Sorry, but I can not fuse them.
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03-19-2012, 08:07 AM
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RE: vBulletin Salt Length
(03-18-2012 07:20 PM)atom Wrote:  
(03-18-2012 03:06 PM)undeath Wrote:  The problem is that both require their own module/kernel because there are different optimizations. While for vb3 hashes two rounds of md5 are sufficient, vb4 hashes needs three rounds because of the long salt. Therefore there cannot be a single kernel for both types.

Thats correct. Its the reason why there are two kernels. Sorry, but I can not fuse them.

Ah, I see. I know of another program (PassP) that is able to do both salt lengths is this cause it doesn't optimize the speed of each salt length and hashcat does or because it uses a different method of cracking (does it?) ? Sorry, I'm not sure with the technical details of it, just wondering.
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03-19-2012, 11:12 AM
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RE: vBulletin Salt Length
PWP needs to do this, too. It just automates the process internally.
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03-19-2012, 12:42 PM
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RE: vBulletin Salt Length
Ah, so no way hashcat may be able to do it internally (in the near future, maybe)?
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03-22-2012, 07:29 PM
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RE: vBulletin Salt Length
not planned
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