RE: Ryzen 1800X CPU with 1080 Ti GPU - undeath - 06-06-2017
(06-04-2017, 08:41 PM)NikosD Wrote: Ryzen 7 1800X is the best mainstream CPU for everything, even cracking.
(06-05-2017, 07:33 AM)NikosD Wrote: I tried to find figures and not opinions regarding cracking performance of Core i7 7700K and RyZen 7 1800X using hashcat in this forum, but didn't find any.
So lack of specific counter-evidence is now evidence? Your logic is pretty twisted. I'm not sure at this point if you're just trolling.
Here is a benchmark for Ryzen 1700X, it's easy to figure out how fast a slightly higher clocked 1800X would be.
RE: Ryzen 1800X CPU with 1080 Ti GPU - NikosD - 06-06-2017
@epixoip
RyZen 7 1800X is a mainstream desktop CPU which can only be compared to a mainstream desktop CPU - apples to apples comparison
And of course it's faster than the fastest mainstream desktop CPU ever built by Intel - Core i7 7700K
Threadripper is a HEDT CPU and can only be compared to Intel HEDT.
Threadripper is again faster than any Intel HEDT available (at least on 2017)
EPYC is a server/enterprise CPU and can only be compared to Xeons
Again, EPYC is faster than any Xeon
It's as simple as that.
@royce
@undeath
@epixoip
If I don't see Kabylake's Core i7 7700K results, everything else is just opinions.
RE: Ryzen 1800X CPU with 1080 Ti GPU - epixoip - 06-06-2017
This is hashcat. We don't aim for the mainstream, we aim for the extreme. We can and will compare the 1800X to the 7820X and beyond -- just as we compare the GTX 1080 Ti to the GTX 1060. In this community those are perfectly valid comparisons because high-end desktops are the low-end of what is acceptable here. Nobody here cares about mediocre mainstream bullshit.
And again, if you understand the math, you will understand why you do not need to see actual benchmark output to know how much faster one chip is than another for password cracking. But I will literally go buy a 7700K and benchmark it for the sole purpose of showing you that you have no clue what you are talking about.
EDIT: I just bought both a 7700K and an 1800X, along with motherboards for each. I will benchmark them just for you. Prediction: the 7700K will be at least 16% faster while being both 26% less expensive and at least 5% more power efficient.
RE: Ryzen 1800X CPU with 1080 Ti GPU - royce - 06-06-2017
@NikosD, if you don't see Kabylake's Core i7 7700K results ... then generate them yourself, post them, and let the numbers speak for themselves.
You continue to make claims that overall processor performance correlates with hashing performance, without supporting those claims with data. Statements are not data.
RE: Ryzen 1800X CPU with 1080 Ti GPU - royce - 06-08-2017
The suspense is palpable.
RE: Ryzen 1800X CPU with 1080 Ti GPU - TofuBoy22 - 06-08-2017
*sits down with popcorn awaiting the big reveal*
RE: Ryzen 1800X CPU with 1080 Ti GPU - tacohashcat - 06-08-2017
(06-06-2017, 06:01 PM)epixoip Wrote: This is hashcat. We don't aim for the mainstream, we aim for the extreme. We can and will compare the 1800X to the 7820X and beyond -- just as we compare the GTX 1080 Ti to the GTX 1060. In this community those are perfectly valid comparisons because high-end desktops are the low-end of what is acceptable here. Nobody here cares about mediocre mainstream bullshit.
And again, if you understand the math, you will understand why you do not need to see actual benchmark output to know how much faster one chip is than another for password cracking. But I will literally go buy a 7700K and benchmark it for the sole purpose of showing you that you have no clue what you are talking about.
EDIT: I just bought both a 7700K and an 1800X, along with motherboards for each. I will benchmark them just for you. Prediction: the 7700K will be at least 16% faster while being both 26% less expensive and at least 5% more power efficient. This is awesome of you to do. The benchmarks will be good information for the community, as well as settling a debate. Looking forward to the results.
RE: Ryzen 1800X CPU with 1080 Ti GPU - Lars - 06-08-2017
Results from a 6700K. The 7700K is roughly 7% faster.
Code: hashcat (v3.5.0-76-gb924901+) starting in benchmark mode...
* Device #3: Intel's OpenCL runtime (GPU only) is currently broken.
We are waiting for updated OpenCL drivers from Intel.
You can use --force to override, but do not report related errors.
OpenCL Platform #1: NVIDIA Corporation
======================================
* Device #1: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, skipped.
* Device #2: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, skipped.
OpenCL Platform #2: Intel(R) Corporation
========================================
* Device #3: Intel(R) HD Graphics 530, skipped.
* Device #4: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz, 4062/16250 MB allocatable, 8MCU
Hashtype: MD4
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 1114.6 MH/s (7.48ms)
Hashtype: MD5
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 663.7 MH/s (12.59ms)
Hashtype: Half MD5
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 403.3 MH/s (20.73ms)
Hashtype: SHA1
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 337.7 MH/s (24.77ms)
Hashtype: SHA-256
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 147.4 MH/s (56.78ms)
Hashtype: SHA-384
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 44606.3 kH/s (93.82ms)
Hashtype: SHA-512
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 44550.5 kH/s (93.94ms)
Hashtype: SHA-3 (Keccak)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 37252.2 kH/s (56.16ms)
Hashtype: SipHash
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 1052.9 MH/s (7.93ms)
Hashtype: Skip32 (PT = $salt, key = $pass)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 46981.2 kH/s (89.07ms)
Hashtype: RIPEMD-160
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 173.6 MH/s (48.21ms)
Hashtype: Whirlpool
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 8015.0 kH/s (65.25ms)
Hashtype: GOST R 34.11-94
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 5703.7 kH/s (91.71ms)
Hashtype: GOST R 34.11-2012 (Streebog) 256-bit
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 2272.2 kH/s (57.55ms)
Hashtype: GOST R 34.11-2012 (Streebog) 512-bit
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 2284.5 kH/s (57.23ms)
Hashtype: DES (PT = $salt, key = $pass)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 108.8 MH/s (76.78ms)
Hashtype: 3DES (PT = $salt, key = $pass)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 8758.5 kH/s (59.71ms)
Hashtype: phpass, WordPress (MD5), phpBB3 (MD5), Joomla (MD5)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 225.8 kH/s (17.90ms)
Hashtype: scrypt
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 0 H/s (1.64ms)
Hashtype: PBKDF2-HMAC-MD5
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 231.0 kH/s (34.54ms)
Hashtype: PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA1
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 123.6 kH/s (65.13ms)
Hashtype: PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA256
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 54795 H/s (73.51ms)
Hashtype: PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA512
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 21443 H/s (94.62ms)
Hashtype: Skype
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 464.0 MH/s (18.02ms)
Hashtype: WPA/WPA2
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 15727 H/s (64.53ms)
Hashtype: IKE-PSK MD5
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 57887.4 kH/s (72.27ms)
Hashtype: IKE-PSK SHA1
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 30699.9 kH/s (68.15ms)
Hashtype: NetNTLMv1 / NetNTLMv1+ESS
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 707.1 MH/s (11.82ms)
Hashtype: NetNTLMv2
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 53745.1 kH/s (77.86ms)
Hashtype: IPMI2 RAKP HMAC-SHA1
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 56944.4 kH/s (73.44ms)
Hashtype: Kerberos 5 AS-REQ Pre-Auth etype 23
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 5530.2 kH/s (94.58ms)
Hashtype: Kerberos 5 TGS-REP etype 23
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 5517.7 kH/s (46.83ms)
Hashtype: DNSSEC (NSEC3)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 110.6 MH/s (75.66ms)
Hashtype: PostgreSQL CRAM (MD5)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 186.3 MH/s (44.92ms)
Hashtype: MySQL CRAM (SHA1)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 91476.5 kH/s (91.49ms)
Hashtype: SIP digest authentication (MD5)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 23875.1 kH/s (87.64ms)
Hashtype: SMF (Simple Machines Forum) > v1.1
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 282.2 MH/s (29.65ms)
Hashtype: vBulletin < v3.8.5
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 189.2 MH/s (44.23ms)
Hashtype: vBulletin >= v3.8.5
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 134.4 MH/s (62.26ms)
Hashtype: IPB2+ (Invision Power Board), MyBB 1.2+
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 139.6 MH/s (59.93ms)
Hashtype: WBB3 (Woltlab Burning Board)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 42675.3 kH/s (49.00ms)
Hashtype: OpenCart
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 57165.3 kH/s (73.19ms)
Hashtype: Joomla < 2.5.18
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 668.5 MH/s (12.50ms)
Hashtype: PHPS
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 189.9 MH/s (44.05ms)
Hashtype: Drupal7
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 1000 H/s (63.82ms)
Hashtype: osCommerce, xt:Commerce
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 460.1 MH/s (18.17ms)
Hashtype: PrestaShop
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 249.0 MH/s (33.58ms)
Hashtype: Django (SHA-1)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 280.5 MH/s (29.82ms)
Hashtype: Django (PBKDF2-SHA256)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 2676 H/s (76.24ms)
Hashtype: MediaWiki B type
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 124.1 MH/s (67.44ms)
Hashtype: Redmine
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 78412.8 kH/s (53.35ms)
Hashtype: PunBB
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 78496.4 kH/s (53.30ms)
Hashtype: PostgreSQL
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 669.3 MH/s (12.49ms)
Hashtype: MSSQL (2000)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 360.9 MH/s (23.17ms)
Hashtype: MSSQL (2005)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 357.8 MH/s (23.37ms)
Hashtype: MSSQL (2012, 2014)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 44317.7 kH/s (94.43ms)
Hashtype: MySQL323
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 1753.4 MH/s (4.75ms)
Hashtype: MySQL4.1/MySQL5
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 157.6 MH/s (53.11ms)
Hashtype: Oracle H: Type (Oracle 7+)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 11684.2 kH/s (88.49ms)
Hashtype: Oracle S: Type (Oracle 11+)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 360.7 MH/s (23.19ms)
Hashtype: Oracle T: Type (Oracle 12+)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 2032 H/s (62.79ms)
Hashtype: Sybase ASE
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 17481.4 kH/s (59.83ms)
Hashtype: Episerver 6.x < .NET 4
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 283.4 MH/s (29.52ms)
Hashtype: Episerver 6.x >= .NET 4
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 136.4 MH/s (61.33ms)
Hashtype: Apache $apr1$ MD5, md5apr1, MD5 (APR)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 54205 H/s (74.93ms)
Hashtype: ColdFusion 10+
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 72746.0 kH/s (57.51ms)
Hashtype: hMailServer
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 136.9 MH/s (61.13ms)
Hashtype: nsldap, SHA-1(Base64), Netscape LDAP SHA
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 359.3 MH/s (23.28ms)
Hashtype: nsldaps, SSHA-1(Base64), Netscape LDAP SSHA
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 359.1 MH/s (23.28ms)
Hashtype: SSHA-256(Base64), LDAP {SSHA256}
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 147.5 MH/s (56.75ms)
Hashtype: SSHA-512(Base64), LDAP {SSHA512}
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 44681.6 kH/s (93.66ms)
Hashtype: LM
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 109.3 MH/s (76.46ms)
Hashtype: NTLM
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 1190.4 MH/s (7.01ms)
Hashtype: Domain Cached Credentials (DCC), MS Cache
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 349.8 MH/s (23.88ms)
Hashtype: Domain Cached Credentials 2 (DCC2), MS Cache 2
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 12414 H/s (65.70ms)
Hashtype: MS-AzureSync PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA256
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 97733 H/s (26.92ms)
Hashtype: descrypt, DES (Unix), Traditional DES
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 4453.4 kH/s (117.38ms)
Hashtype: BSDiCrypt, Extended DES
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 23849 H/s (56.91ms)
Hashtype: md5crypt, MD5 (Unix), Cisco-IOS $1$ (MD5)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 55518 H/s (73.12ms)
Hashtype: bcrypt $2*$, Blowfish (Unix)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 2993 H/s (83.52ms)
Hashtype: sha256crypt $5$, SHA256 (Unix)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 3536 H/s (57.49ms)
Hashtype: sha512crypt $6$, SHA512 (Unix)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 3096 H/s (65.74ms)
Hashtype: OSX v10.4, OSX v10.5, OSX v10.6
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 268.6 MH/s (31.13ms)
Hashtype: OSX v10.7
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 42895.4 kH/s (48.77ms)
Hashtype: OSX v10.8+ (PBKDF2-SHA512)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 620 H/s (95.81ms)
Hashtype: AIX {smd5}
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 55628 H/s (73.05ms)
Hashtype: AIX {ssha1}
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 366.9 kH/s (10.60ms)
Hashtype: AIX {ssha256}
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 156.0 kH/s (25.22ms)
Hashtype: AIX {ssha512}
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 126.3 kH/s (31.17ms)
Hashtype: Cisco-PIX MD5
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 482.6 MH/s (17.32ms)
Hashtype: Cisco-ASA MD5
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 482.1 MH/s (17.35ms)
Hashtype: Cisco-IOS type 4 (SHA256)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 148.0 MH/s (56.55ms)
Hashtype: Cisco-IOS $8$ (PBKDF2-SHA256)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 2761 H/s (73.95ms)
Hashtype: Cisco-IOS $9$ (scrypt)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 0 H/s (28.57ms)
Hashtype: Juniper NetScreen/SSG (ScreenOS)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 455.3 MH/s (18.36ms)
Hashtype: Juniper IVE
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 55717 H/s (72.99ms)
Hashtype: Samsung Android Password/PIN
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 44902 H/s (90.69ms)
Hashtype: Citrix NetScaler
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 283.7 MH/s (29.48ms)
Hashtype: RACF
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 25212.2 kH/s (82.98ms)
Hashtype: GRUB 2
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 2176 H/s (93.85ms)
Hashtype: Radmin2
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 249.8 MH/s (33.48ms)
Hashtype: SAP CODVN B (BCODE)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 27806.1 kH/s (75.24ms)
Hashtype: SAP CODVN F/G (PASSCODE)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 12956.9 kH/s (80.74ms)
Hashtype: SAP CODVN H (PWDSALTEDHASH) iSSHA-1
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 43326 H/s (93.98ms)
Hashtype: Lotus Notes/Domino 5
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 5290.2 kH/s (49.24ms)
Hashtype: Lotus Notes/Domino 6
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 1789.5 kH/s (73.08ms)
Hashtype: Lotus Notes/Domino 8
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 4912 H/s (82.45ms)
Hashtype: PeopleSoft
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 360.2 MH/s (23.21ms)
Hashtype: PeopleSoft PS_TOKEN
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 23486.4 kH/s (89.09ms)
Hashtype: 7-Zip
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 93 H/s (84.14ms)
Hashtype: WinZip
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 8286 H/s (46.10ms)
Hashtype: RAR3-hp
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 564 H/s (56.51ms)
Hashtype: RAR5
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 310 H/s (50.88ms)
Hashtype: AxCrypt
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 5143 H/s (79.42ms)
Hashtype: AxCrypt in-memory SHA1
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 335.6 MH/s (24.92ms)
Hashtype: TrueCrypt PBKDF2-HMAC-RIPEMD160 + XTS 512 bit
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 1734 H/s (73.51ms)
Hashtype: TrueCrypt PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA512 + XTS 512 bit
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 8252 H/s (46.12ms)
Hashtype: TrueCrypt PBKDF2-HMAC-Whirlpool + XTS 512 bit
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 1859 H/s (59.87ms)
Hashtype: TrueCrypt PBKDF2-HMAC-RIPEMD160 + XTS 512 bit + boot-mode
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 3480 H/s (73.13ms)
Hashtype: VeraCrypt PBKDF2-HMAC-RIPEMD160 + XTS 512 bit
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 0 H/s (75.20ms)
Hashtype: VeraCrypt PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA512 + XTS 512 bit
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 0 H/s (63.04ms)
Hashtype: VeraCrypt PBKDF2-HMAC-Whirlpool + XTS 512 bit
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 0 H/s (68.97ms)
Hashtype: VeraCrypt PBKDF2-HMAC-RIPEMD160 + XTS 512 bit + boot-mode
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 0 H/s (75.13ms)
Hashtype: VeraCrypt PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA256 + XTS 512 bit
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 0 H/s (50.56ms)
Hashtype: VeraCrypt PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA256 + XTS 512 bit + boot-mode
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 0 H/s (50.63ms)
Hashtype: Android FDE <= 4.3
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 6216 H/s (81.88ms)
Hashtype: Android FDE (Samsung DEK)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 2503 H/s (50.95ms)
Hashtype: eCryptfs
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 247 H/s (63.62ms)
Hashtype: MS Office <= 2003 $0/$1, MD5 + RC4
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 5649.4 kH/s (92.59ms)
Hashtype: MS Office <= 2003 $0/$1, MD5 + RC4, collider #1
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 12214.9 kH/s (85.65ms)
Hashtype: MS Office <= 2003 $3/$4, SHA1 + RC4
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 8325.7 kH/s (62.82ms)
Hashtype: MS Office <= 2003 $3/$4, SHA1 + RC4, collider #1
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 12656.3 kH/s (82.66ms)
Hashtype: MS Office 2007
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 1017 H/s (81.95ms)
Hashtype: MS Office 2010
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 494 H/s (82.78ms)
Hashtype: MS Office 2013
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 154 H/s (62.77ms)
Hashtype: PDF 1.1 - 1.3 (Acrobat 2 - 4)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 12885.1 kH/s (80.22ms)
Hashtype: PDF 1.1 - 1.3 (Acrobat 2 - 4), collider #1
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 17967.1 kH/s (57.98ms)
Hashtype: PDF 1.4 - 1.6 (Acrobat 5 - 8)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 847.0 kH/s (67.52ms)
Hashtype: PDF 1.7 Level 3 (Acrobat 9)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 148.0 MH/s (56.53ms)
Hashtype: PDF 1.7 Level 8 (Acrobat 10 - 11)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 3192 H/s (79.87ms)
Hashtype: Password Safe v2
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 80338 H/s (66.30ms)
Hashtype: Password Safe v3
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 10073 H/s (50.63ms)
Hashtype: LastPass + LastPass sniffed
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 20271 H/s (49.77ms)
Hashtype: 1Password, agilekeychain
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 24281 H/s (83.41ms)
Hashtype: 1Password, cloudkeychain
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 187 H/s (62.98ms)
Hashtype: Bitcoin/Litecoin wallet.dat
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 62 H/s (63.61ms)
Hashtype: Blockchain, My Wallet
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 831.8 kH/s (3.42ms)
Hashtype: Blockchain, My Wallet, V2
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 2263 H/s (90.15ms)
Hashtype: KeePass 1 (AES/Twofish) and KeePass 2 (AES)
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 4264 H/s (79.74ms)
Hashtype: ArubaOS
Speed.Dev.#4.....: 282.2 MH/s (29.65ms)
Started: Thu Jun 08 23:10:31 2017
Stopped: Thu Jun 08 23:16:45 2017
RE: Ryzen 1800X CPU with 1080 Ti GPU - royce - 06-14-2017
Now that CCC is over, maybe @epixoip will have time for an unboxing.
RE: Ryzen 1800X CPU with 1080 Ti GPU - epixoip - 06-14-2017
All the parts have arrived, the minions are building out the systems now.
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