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Office collision: 7 or more characters? - Mem5 - 12-26-2016

Hello !

I am trying to collide an Office hash : $oldoffice$0*aa*bb*cc. I use :
Quote:9710 | MS Office <= 2003 $0|$1, MD5 + RC4, collider #1

hashcat64.exe -w 3 -m 9710 office.hash  -a 3 ?b?b?b?b?b  -o tmp_office.txt

This command give me this RC4 key :
Quote:$oldoffice$0*aa*bb*cc:2c2c2c2c2c

Then, I use 9720 MS Office <= 2003 MD5 + RC4, collision-mode #2

Quote:hashcat64.exe -w 3 -m 9720 tmp_office.txt -a 3  ?a?a?a?a?a?a?a

After 7 hours, exhausted, but no password found.

Does it mean my charset (seven times ?a) is not big enough ?
I though this mode (9720) would find a collision with only 7 characters.
8 times ?a is huge and long.

Thanks for your help.


RE: Office collision: 7 or more characters? - atom - 12-26-2016

What's the problem here?


RE: Office collision: 7 or more characters? - Mem5 - 12-28-2016

The command:
Quote:hashcat64.exe -w 3 -m 9720 tmp_office.txt -a 3 ?a?a?a?a?a?a?a

does not give any collisions. For the first time ever.
Am I doing something wrong ?


RE: Office collision: 7 or more characters? - atom - 12-29-2016

Well, MD5 is 128 bit while RC4 (in this case) is only 40 bit. The mode #2 is not made to find collisions, it's more to find the correct password used. Having the correct password gives you the chance to test it with other archives.