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Benchmark selection - atom - 10-28-2017 According to this github issue: https://github.com/hashcat/hashcat/issues/1411 The plan is to split the benchmark into a shorter one, with selected modes and a complete one. The question is, which mode is worth to be added to the selected one? Let me do a start what I think people use most often:
Please add the modes you think should be added, but more important, add a reason as I did so we can discuss it. RE: Benchmark selection - atom - 10-28-2017 Full List: https://hashcat.net/hashcat/ RE: Benchmark selection - philsmd - 10-28-2017 Maybe VeraCrypt (in addition to TrueCrypt or as replacement for TrueCrypt) would make sense. I think also some MS office modes could make sense within the reduced list, because it's also used a lot by hashcat users. RE: Benchmark selection - royce - 10-28-2017 I am not sure which other algorithms would apply, but I imagine that some algorithms are good for testing differences between AMD/NVIDIA, or between driver versions, or between versions of hashcat. atom / philsmd, I assume that you would know some of these immediately. I agree with philsmd about including some Office. Other ideas: * PBKDF2 (because it's probably used in a number of different places?) * SHA-3 or SHA-512 (or an algorithm likely to be used for a long time to come, to compare benchmarks over time) For selecting groups of hashes for focused benchmarking, it might be useful to select all of the ones in a particular family: * Raw Hash * Raw Hash, Salted and/or Iterated * Raw Hash, Authenticated * Raw Cipher, Known-Plaintext attack * Generic KDF * Network Protocols * Forums, CMS, E-Commerce, Frameworks * Database Server * HTTP, SMTP, LDAP Server * FTP Server * Checksums * Operating Systems * Enterprise Application Software (EAS) * Archives * Backup * Full-Disk Encryption (FDE) * Documents * Password Managers * Plaintext RE: Benchmark selection - atom - 10-29-2017 Thanks for your response. Let comment per algorithm: Quote:Maybe VeraCrypt (in addition to TrueCrypt or as replacement for TrueCrypt) would make sense. Both would be nice to have, but they both share the same "problem". That is that they have a dynamic iteration count. Therefore comparison of benchmarks always lead to invalid results. Quote:I think also some MS office modes could make sense within the reduced list, because it's also used a lot by hashcat users. Yes I agree somewhat. But which version exactly? And what about the old guaranteed cracking modes of office? Quote:SHA-3 or SHA-512 (or an algorithm likely to be used for a long time to come, to compare benchmarks over time) Both are raw hashes and unlikely to be used as password storage hash. A more valid example for "long time to come" would be Argon 2, but we don't support that one. Quote:For selecting groups of hashes for focused benchmarking, it might be useful to select all of the ones in a particular family: Doesn't sound economic RE: Benchmark selection - undeath - 10-29-2017 (10-29-2017, 11:08 AM)atom Wrote:Quote:Maybe VeraCrypt (in addition to TrueCrypt or as replacement for TrueCrypt) would make sense. I would assume hashcat uses a fixed iteration count for benchmarks. Then it would still allow to compare performance of different hashcat versions and different hardware. RE: Benchmark selection - royce - 10-29-2017 (10-29-2017, 11:08 AM)atom Wrote:Quote:For selecting groups of hashes for focused benchmarking, it might be useful to select all of the ones in a particular family: I wasn't being clear. I added that as a related topic - the idea that it would be nice to have a way to run all benchmarks in a given family -- not for the default benchmark, but something that a user could run on request. RE: Benchmark selection - atom - 11-02-2017 (10-29-2017, 02:11 PM)undeath Wrote:(10-29-2017, 11:08 AM)atom Wrote:Quote:Maybe VeraCrypt (in addition to TrueCrypt or as replacement for TrueCrypt) would make sense. Right but what's the point then. VeraCrypt and TrueCrypt share the same algorithms, the only difference is the PIM. This means VeraCrypt performance scales linearely with TrueCrypt performance. RE: Benchmark selection - atom - 11-02-2017 (10-29-2017, 06:10 PM)royce Wrote:(10-29-2017, 11:08 AM)atom Wrote:Quote:For selecting groups of hashes for focused benchmarking, it might be useful to select all of the ones in a particular family: What I meant with economic is that it creates alot of developing overhead but I think not many people will make use of it. |