05-08-2021, 09:55 AM
I think you guys are referring to this Mist github issue https://github.com/ethereum/mist/issues/3513 ?
I have no clue what that other MyEthereum....org web site has to do with Mist . We shouldn't mix different web sites and software all together. Mist is/was a desktop software as far as I know, it's unrelated to some online wallets / web sites.
The problem with that "I never set a password problem" is that there are many examples of users that proof that they were wrong thinking about not setting a password (see for instance this github issue https://github.com/ethereum/mist/issues/4188 , "I don't remember setting up password " and afterwards "I was actually able to recover the password" ). There are many examples of this.
Not sure about your exact situation, but while researching this "problem" a little bit a few months/years ago (because several users asked for hashcat help and hash algorithm support etc), I/we didn't really come to a very clear conclusion of any serious wide-spread problem that could lock up accounts or fail to recover the funds (there were some examples like: https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/issues/16286 and https://github.com/ethereum/mist/issues/3762 etc but these are all very special situations, not even remotely wide-spread / common situations and the test/solutions are very clear in those cases).
I'm not trying to downplay the situation and it's not 100% excluded that there is/was a software bug... but the problem is already the fact that whenever and only when the ETH price rises there are many users that suddently discover they don't remember having set any password, is a little bit suspicious .
I think it's best to try to focus on the facts and try to generate new accounts with the same software with a known password (or even just freshly start the software and see if a password prompt is asked etc), best to try the same Mist version number etc.... try to create accounts and try to crack them etc etc etc
I did those experiments back then a couple of times with different Mist software versions and except from these few special problems I (or others) mentioned in https://github.com/ethereum/mist/issues/3513 , there wasn't a clear "Mist bug" identified that could be responsible for all the locked accounts (where probably in 99.99 % at least are user errors or problems with the user's brain memory, that's what I'm currently believing, but some hard facts about a bug could of course contradict that or proof that wrong. but we need a proof of a bug first).
Maybe you can make some further tests and mention your results here or on the mist github issue. good luck
I have no clue what that other MyEthereum....org web site has to do with Mist . We shouldn't mix different web sites and software all together. Mist is/was a desktop software as far as I know, it's unrelated to some online wallets / web sites.
The problem with that "I never set a password problem" is that there are many examples of users that proof that they were wrong thinking about not setting a password (see for instance this github issue https://github.com/ethereum/mist/issues/4188 , "I don't remember setting up password " and afterwards "I was actually able to recover the password" ). There are many examples of this.
Not sure about your exact situation, but while researching this "problem" a little bit a few months/years ago (because several users asked for hashcat help and hash algorithm support etc), I/we didn't really come to a very clear conclusion of any serious wide-spread problem that could lock up accounts or fail to recover the funds (there were some examples like: https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/issues/16286 and https://github.com/ethereum/mist/issues/3762 etc but these are all very special situations, not even remotely wide-spread / common situations and the test/solutions are very clear in those cases).
I'm not trying to downplay the situation and it's not 100% excluded that there is/was a software bug... but the problem is already the fact that whenever and only when the ETH price rises there are many users that suddently discover they don't remember having set any password, is a little bit suspicious .
I think it's best to try to focus on the facts and try to generate new accounts with the same software with a known password (or even just freshly start the software and see if a password prompt is asked etc), best to try the same Mist version number etc.... try to create accounts and try to crack them etc etc etc
I did those experiments back then a couple of times with different Mist software versions and except from these few special problems I (or others) mentioned in https://github.com/ethereum/mist/issues/3513 , there wasn't a clear "Mist bug" identified that could be responsible for all the locked accounts (where probably in 99.99 % at least are user errors or problems with the user's brain memory, that's what I'm currently believing, but some hard facts about a bug could of course contradict that or proof that wrong. but we need a proof of a bug first).
Maybe you can make some further tests and mention your results here or on the mist github issue. good luck