> A hashcat brain can run on any simple computer
maybe, but we want speed around 200 kH/s for WPA2
edit, aah, you mean GPU is the largest bottleneck .... sounds good
> I have a 1060 3GB
please post your benchmarks, we can only find marks for the 6GB models
> my advice is to buy maybe like a 1070 or 1070ti second hand
GTX 1070 Ti .... used for 260 eur .... 370 kHps per 170 watt .... not bad
> Keep in mind that applying rules could make the hash rate drop a lot.
we only need hybrid mode, with a random dictionary and incremental bruteforce.
this way, we expect similar speeds as in benchmarks.
> And buy FOUNDER/REFERENCE design.
> I made the mistake of buying a dual fan model and I`ll try to solve it as soon as possible.
why founder edition? why choose nVidia as card manufacturer?
why not dual fan?
as we understand, manufacturers only variate details,
like power source (PCIe or external 8-pin / 6-pin)
or cooling system (open air, blower, water cooling)
or card length
or RAM size
or warranty terms
or electric component quality
or frequency / voltage defaults ....
[ we plan to use "power limiting" or undervolting, to reduce hardware stress ]
we also found an "alternative mainboard" in this thread: Laptop choices
they use an "ExpressCard to PCIe adapter" to connect laptop and GPU.
also called eGPU or "video card dock".
seems we can also connect multiple video cards to one ExpressCard slot
using a "PCIe port multiplier", either integrated into the EC--PCIe adapter board,
or modular, plugged into the adapter.
bottleneck?
+ PCIe 3.0 1x < 1 GByte/s
+ ExpressCard < 0.3 GByte/s
= key size < 0.3 GByte/s / 400 kH/s = 750 Byte
--> in theory, no bottleneck
since we already have a laptop with expresscard slot,
that would reduce our wishlist to ....
target = 200 kH/s WPA2
150eur GeForce GTX 1060 6GB, used --> 120 watt TDP, 140 watt peak
040eur ExpressCard to PCIe adapter
040eur be quiet! Pure Power 11 300W ATX 2.4 (BN290)
= 230eur total
= 1.15 eur/kHps + 0.6 watt/kHps
= 870 kHps/eur + 1670 kHps/watt
target = 370 kH/s WPA2
260eur GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB, used --> 180 watt TDP, 290 watt peak
040eur ExpressCard to PCIe adapter
050eur be quiet! Pure Power 11 400W ATX 2.4 (BN292)
= 350eur total
= 0.95 eur/kHps + 0.5 watt/kHps
= 1060 kHps/eur + 2050 kHps/watt
.... to confirm your estimate that the GTX 1070 Ti is cheaper in the long run
= after 9 months of use at 0.30eur/kWh
the old question, pay now or pay later?
but also, pay how much power?
120 watt --> 25 eur per month
180 watt --> 40 eur per month
numbers porn!
maybe, but we want speed around 200 kH/s for WPA2
edit, aah, you mean GPU is the largest bottleneck .... sounds good
> I have a 1060 3GB
please post your benchmarks, we can only find marks for the 6GB models
> my advice is to buy maybe like a 1070 or 1070ti second hand
GTX 1070 Ti .... used for 260 eur .... 370 kHps per 170 watt .... not bad
> Keep in mind that applying rules could make the hash rate drop a lot.
we only need hybrid mode, with a random dictionary and incremental bruteforce.
this way, we expect similar speeds as in benchmarks.
> And buy FOUNDER/REFERENCE design.
> I made the mistake of buying a dual fan model and I`ll try to solve it as soon as possible.
why founder edition? why choose nVidia as card manufacturer?
why not dual fan?
as we understand, manufacturers only variate details,
like power source (PCIe or external 8-pin / 6-pin)
or cooling system (open air, blower, water cooling)
or card length
or RAM size
or warranty terms
or electric component quality
or frequency / voltage defaults ....
[ we plan to use "power limiting" or undervolting, to reduce hardware stress ]
we also found an "alternative mainboard" in this thread: Laptop choices
they use an "ExpressCard to PCIe adapter" to connect laptop and GPU.
also called eGPU or "video card dock".
forumhero Wrote:#7
03-11-2015
About a year ago I explored the possibility of a DIY external GPU setup. I had an ATI HD 5770, a 1000 watt PSU and a 7 year old Dell laptop all collecting dust and thought it would be a fun little project.
Long story short it was extremely easy to setup and performance was the same as having the card in a desktop. All I needed was a ExpressCard Bus to PCIe-x1 cable (part# PE4L-EC060A), install the GPU drivers (my case the AMD drivers) and had hashcat up and running in no time.
I did have reliability issues where the driver would crash on certain hash types forcing a restart of the laptop. Will have to fire it up again to see if reliability has improved with newer drivers and hashcat but for the most part it worked really good.
seems we can also connect multiple video cards to one ExpressCard slot
using a "PCIe port multiplier", either integrated into the EC--PCIe adapter board,
or modular, plugged into the adapter.
bottleneck?
+ PCIe 3.0 1x < 1 GByte/s
+ ExpressCard < 0.3 GByte/s
= key size < 0.3 GByte/s / 400 kH/s = 750 Byte
--> in theory, no bottleneck
since we already have a laptop with expresscard slot,
that would reduce our wishlist to ....
target = 200 kH/s WPA2
150eur GeForce GTX 1060 6GB, used --> 120 watt TDP, 140 watt peak
040eur ExpressCard to PCIe adapter
040eur be quiet! Pure Power 11 300W ATX 2.4 (BN290)
= 230eur total
= 1.15 eur/kHps + 0.6 watt/kHps
= 870 kHps/eur + 1670 kHps/watt
target = 370 kH/s WPA2
260eur GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB, used --> 180 watt TDP, 290 watt peak
040eur ExpressCard to PCIe adapter
050eur be quiet! Pure Power 11 400W ATX 2.4 (BN292)
= 350eur total
= 0.95 eur/kHps + 0.5 watt/kHps
= 1060 kHps/eur + 2050 kHps/watt
.... to confirm your estimate that the GTX 1070 Ti is cheaper in the long run
= after 9 months of use at 0.30eur/kWh
the old question, pay now or pay later?
but also, pay how much power?
120 watt --> 25 eur per month
180 watt --> 40 eur per month
numbers porn!